Patch 5.13 Core AP Items Changes, New HUD turned off on PBE

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Xypherous has released a massive list of tentative changes to core AP items that’ll ship with Patch 5.13 (we’re currently in the 5.12 PBE cycle). Speaking of the PBE, the new HUD has been turned off and won’t ship with the next patch. Also, a new ban wave will hit botters and cheaters this week.

vLemon: Hey guys,

In preparation for the 5.12 patch we disabled the new HUD as we’re not going to be releasing it with this patch. The reason for this is that the closer we get to the patch date we want to get confidence on the builds that we plan on shipping to all regions.

We will be re-enabling the new HUD on PBE at once with 5.13!

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Note: These changes aren’t on the PBE yet! But will on the PBE once we switch over to testing the new patch stuff.

TL;DR – We’re changing AP Items! NLR is cheaper! More things give 80 AP! More things build out of NLR! Most things top out at 100 AP – but you’ll still probably have the same amount of AP in your full build!

EDIT: Okay, you guys usually don’t outnumber me by this much when I make a post like this. Going to pass out – probably won’t be able to respond to comments until the changes hit PBE and players start playing on them.

Rationale

Ability Power is a relatively easy thing to optimize in the current ecosystem and the current AP builds are a little more generic than I’d like.

AP mages bring a mix of damage and utility but the AP items have accidentally converged around damaging AP builds far outpacing more utility or counter-centric ones.

Needlessly Large Rod and the ‘120 AP’ Build

The crux of this issue is the fact that if you want a relatively high amount of AP – you were constrained to a fixed set of items that greatly synergize with each other due to the high amounts of base AP on them (Zhonya’s, Ludens, Deathcap). These items also tend to be more gold efficient because they’re behind the huge barrier of Needlessly Large Rod, in order to reward players for taking a power dip.

As time has passed – this NLR has created some odd side effects – the strongest AP items also have terrific utility or potential, which places every other AP item in a semi-awkward spot. It’s hard to justify a utility item over a build full of NLR items – especially since an NLR item gave something on the order of +52 / 78 more AP innately per slot after Deathcap or other potential multipliers.

What we’ve seen is that because this particular combination is so favored – it heavily narrows the types of mage patterns to those that can best use this particular offensive combination, effectively pushing out more control oriented mage playstyles or sustained mage playstyles in favor of whatever kits work well with a large amount of raw AP and care about burst damage.

This means that mages who have a core item or side item that don’t contain the default 4 items are heavily unfavored relative to their counterparts. While a certain degree of optimization around the items will exist – the power gap between different AP styles really doesn’t have to be on the order of 50-75 AP per slot in order to be meaningful.

What we’re doing

Tactically, we’re hitting the high end items in terms of AP while retouching and doing an update on the AP of most of the other items such that they compare more favorably to each other. Some items have been raised or lowered to 100 AP – while others have been lifted up to 80 Ability Power. We want to keep the overall amount of AP you get about the same at the end – but we want there to be more variations on the type items there – in case you need to deviate from a standard core.

Here goes – It’s a pretty big changelist but it’s mostly a cleanup and tier adjustment pass.

Changelist

Blasting Wand

Cost decreased from 860 Gold to 850

Needlessly Large Rod

Cost decreased from 1600 Gold to 1250
Ability Power decreased from 80 to 60

NLR being at such a high price / AP point means that almost any item that builds from NLR would have to have greater than 100 Ability Power on it when combined with any other Ability Power component. This proved to be a pretty huge constraint in using NLR as a stepping stone for certain items – going to retarget NLR as a smaller item. While this does have some implications on lane timing (You no longer need a double kill to get NLR first back, for example) – It was either this or inflate AP as a whole across the board.

This has some… interesting ramifications in terms of the stability of mid lane purchases.

Rabadon’s Deathcap

Recipe Change: Needlessly Large Rod + Blasting Wand + Amplifying Tome
Total Cost increased from 3300 Gold to 3500
Ability Power UNCHANGED: 120 AP
UNIQUE Passive now grants 35% Ability Power Amp, increased from 30%

Deathcap’s change mostly revolves around keeping total final AP of the damage build the same – while being able to nerf the individual AP items to have more comparable numbers to each other. As Deathcap is thekeystone I want a lot of AP item – we pushed the power here.

Zhonya’s Hourglass

Total Cost decreased from 3300 Gold to 3000
Now grants 100 Ability Power, decreased from 120

Luden’s Echo (Summoner’s Rift)

Total Cost decreased from 3100 Gold to 3000
Now grants 100 Ability Power, decreased from 120
Now grants 10% bonus Movement Speed, increased from 7%

Luden’s is a terrifying item in terms of the general poke power it adds – Luden’s probably needs a more solid identity that ‘raw power’ – so we’ve been pushing the item to be more and more about being mobility focused rather than spam spell focused.

I suspect we’ll eventually need to do more to the item but it’d most likely be more of a slow burn.

Archangel’s Staff (Summoner’s Rift)

Recipe Change: Needlessly Large Rod + Tear of the Goddess + 1030 Gold
Total Cost increased from 2700 Gold to 3000
Now grants 80 Base Ability Power, increased from 60

Making more items build out of NLR in the hopes of expanding the high-tier AP space. AAA is definitely deserving of being one of the high tier AP slots, given its general growth pattern and the fact that it’s attached to a quest in order to achieve maximum AP potential.

Seraph’s Embrace (Summoner’s Rift)

Now grants 80 Base AP, increased from 60

…For completion’s sake.

Rod of Ages (Summoner’s Rift)

Total Cost decreased from 2800 Gold to 2700
Now grants 300 Base Health, decreased from 450
Grants 400 Base Mana, decreased from 450
The passive growth now gives 40 Mana per minute, increased from 20, up to a maximum of 400, increased from 200
Passive now grants 4 AP per minute, increased from 2 AP, up to a maximum of 40 AP, increased from 20

Rod is currently leaning a bit too much towards favoring AP Heavies with the statline – while not really solving Mana / AP concerns for mages who want to pick it up. Going to adjust the item to more favor the Mana and Offensive statistics of this item, especially over time.

Nashor’s Tooth

Total cost increased from 2920 Gold to 3000
Now grants 40% Attack Speed, decreased from 50%
Now grants 80 AP, increased from 60

We’re also pushing more items up to compete in the 80 Ability Power range – While Nashor’s is a fine purchase for people who already have strong on-hit procs – the ratio of Attack Speed to Spells favored these characters probably a bit too hard.

Nashor’s should be acceptable as a niche for certain mages that can use their autoattacks well – but also have decent ratios.

(I’m not being biased here at all. I don’t know who you’re talking about.)

Rylai’s Crystal Scepter

Recipe Change: Needlessly Large Rod + Amplifying Tome + Giant’s Belt
Total Cost increased from 2900 Gold to 3000
On single targets, the slow strengh has been increased from 35% for 1.5 seconds to 40% for 1.5 seconds
The AoE slow strength has been increased from 15% for 1.5 seconds to 40% for 1 second
For Passive DotS and “zone spells”, the slow strength has been increased from 15% for 1.5 seconds to 20% for 1 second

Note: If a spell is both an AoE and a DoT – they use the DoT value.

Rylai’s is currently good in a few scenarios, namely – do you have a spammable single target spell and a train pattern – a large part of this is the fact that the AoE / DoT portions of the slow are so weak in comparison to the single target slow. Changing the tactic here to make those slows have less overall duration rather than penalizing the direct effect.

This is a very powerful push in terms of Rylai’s overall power – but we’ll be looking at modifying and cleaning up of the slow rules as well either now or in the near future.

(Also added a self-only freeze particle effect so you can watch everyone become ice cubes when you’re slowing them. FOR CLARITY.)

Haunting Guise

Total Cost has been increased from 1480 Gold to 1500

Wait for it…

Liandry’s Torment

Recipe Change: Haunting Guise + Blasting Wand
Total Cost has been increased from 2900 Gold to 3000
Now grants 80 Base AP, increased from 50

Liandry’s Torment is designed to be able to fit as a High Health / Low Resistance shredder (hence the combination of health damage + flat penetration). However, the lower AP on the item frequently meant your kit didn’t actually work. Aggressively pushing the power of this build to be able to compete with the more immediate damage type builds – like proc builds.

Will of the Ancients

No longer grants 20% Spell Vamp
New Passive: Your spells and abilities heal you for 15% of the damage dealt, calculated BEFORE your opponent’s resistances. 33% effect for AoE Spells.

You need so many things to get a Spell Vamp build to work. You have to be resistant enough to not get bursted. You have to deal a sufficient amount of raw damage in order to heal. You probably need to be ahead to outscale the opponent’s resistances. You need a ton of base damage. Therefore – this change is trying to reduce the number of dependencies needed in order to ‘turn on.’ You won’t need Pen to heal from this item on champions. Spell Vamp builds are fairly problematic to control once they get rolling – so they tend to be pretty binary.

The hope here is that there’s a lower spell vamp value and less healing generally in exchange for not needing so much to get started.

OmNomNomicon

Recipe Change: Fiendish Codex + Forbidden Idol + Amplifying Tome
Total Cost unchanged

Wanted to increase the number of potential purchase options at the ~1200 G level.

I’m attempting to make Codex + Book or Wisp + Book potentially attractive choices compared to NLR, especially on your first back. You’ll get more interim power than the NLR – at the slight cost of strongly telegrahing what you’re going to build and locking yourself into a build. It’s mostly an experiment to see if players like having this kind of choice between 800 + 400 component vs. ~1200 mid-tier.

It makes the recipe a bit bloated but… yeah.

Athene’s Unholy Grail

Recipe Change: Fiendish Codex + Chalice of Harmony + Amplifying Tome
Total Cost unchanged

See Omnomnomicon Above.

Void Staff

Total Cost has been increased from 2295 Gold to 2500
Now grants 80 Ability Power, increased from 70

Void Staff’s raw efficiency is pretty high compared to some of the other items on the list.

While % Penetration will always be a great multiplier for damage for any damage oriented mage – you don’t really need it to also be such a great source of Ability Power. This pushes Void Staff’s efficiency more in line with some of the other items with comparable multipliers. Also adding a bit of AP to ensure that players end up at roughly the same amount of AP they did pre-patch.

#1 Zypppy Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:34

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:34