I will paste some conversations i had yesterday to show all the public drama:
This conversation is between ME, Prometheus, c0mrade:
Got a working minion manager, with Sort by Hp High/Low, In range etc... Had to put a delay on the Object Update loop for now, works fine, Inspired looking now at any improvements changes and it'll go on forum
[19.7.2015 г. 13:35:32] Im Prometheus: How about a Canon minion prioritisation?
[19.7.2015 г. 13:35:54] GoS C0mrade: What we rather need is something like AddAfterObjectLoopEventCallback(function); then we could make as many of those as needed in the library and would not have to care
[19.7.2015 г. 13:36:00] GoS C0mrade: Inspired, agreed
[19.7.2015 г. 13:36:09] GoS C0mrade: With that we can actually expand functionality as needed
[19.7.2015 г. 20:16:27] Feretorix: Hi guys, any reasonable info behind the new message at the site? :
"Do NOT use GOS on accounts you are willing to lose until an issue has been sorted out."
[19.7.2015 г. 20:16:58] Feretorix: There is some HUGE panic and downtrend going on because of that message and it doesn't explain what is going on.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:17:20] Feretorix: There isn't even a valid thread with detailed info about the issue.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:21:39] GoS C0mrade: Prometheus back soon
[19.7.2015 г. 20:22:51] Feretorix: I saw him messaging on the forums seconds ago, weird.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:23:52] Im Prometheus: I'm popping back and forth from work
[19.7.2015 г. 20:25:41] GoS C0mrade: Basically, there are references to Delphi stuff in riot logs and even 1 line referencing new.dll and the source to the dll can be recovered/reversed in a matter of seconds. Theres no security, no sandbox and to top things off it looks and seams like its just a rip off or copy paste of bol , I feel kinda disappointed but I knew it was unsafe.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:25:51] GoS C0mrade: Not sure what your goal is
[19.7.2015 г. 20:25:58] Im Prometheus: James if you explain everything how it is
[19.7.2015 г. 20:26:01] Im Prometheus: I'll be back
[19.7.2015 г. 20:26:12] GoS C0mrade: because mass ban will cause more panic tbh
[19.7.2015 г. 20:27:03] Feretorix: And ... your solution to the problem?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:27:55] Feretorix: Unlink module from the dll list?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:27:59] GoS C0mrade: sandbox it, add encryption and scramble some if the functions
[19.7.2015 г. 20:28:05] GoS C0mrade: no
[19.7.2015 г. 20:28:08] GoS C0mrade: wrap it
[19.7.2015 г. 20:28:10] GoS C0mrade: s
[19.7.2015 г. 20:28:14] GoS C0mrade: encrypt it
[19.7.2015 г. 20:28:24] GoS C0mrade: before mass ban
[19.7.2015 г. 20:28:33] GoS C0mrade: Anyway, I'm off to dinner
[19.7.2015 г. 20:29:00] GoS C0mrade: Fere do what you need, it's not worth me sticking about here
[19.7.2015 г. 20:30:44] GoS C0mrade: I implemented sandbox on lsharp and have code, I've implemented scrambling in several projects and I've just sat by watching god knows what here
[19.7.2015 г. 20:31:14] GoS C0mrade: anyway I have to go dinner, misses killing me, if you want help ill be on asap
[19.7.2015 г. 20:31:23] Feretorix: 1) It's Sunday, i was on a holliday today.
2) The API is alpha and really hard to use from newbies, much of the stuff are planned including sandbox, and about 10~20 people use lua scripts released. Even if there is no sandbox there is no encryption to the scripts and they can read it's content, it won't wipe out their HDD or SSD like it happend on BoL.
3) The thing you say about Riot scanning is just a hypotessis and is not backed up by real code-reversing, it's just plain guessing.
4) Riot barely detects cheats client sided, they do server sided checks instead, for spamming move/castspell packets/requiring from the server FOV from bigger view and much more stuff like that.
5) There is a memory/dll check which hashes memory regions, this is BYPASSED by GoS since the first release of it.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:33:34] Feretorix: Have you reversed GoS yourself just for a bit? Haven't you spotted 5) i mentioned earlier?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:35:08] Feretorix: It doesn't matter if your DLL is packet/encrypted/hidden/sandboxed/wrapped or whatever. You can easily bypass all that with ease if you block ZwQueryVirtualMemory access, didn't i mention that already?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:35:29] Feretorix: Riot relies on server sided detections.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:35:36] Feretorix: I am removing the message in the site.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:17:39] GoS C0mrade: No, theres more to it, please research theres even a post on d3 detailing the 5.04 update
[19.7.2015 г. 21:17:55] GoS C0mrade: your gambling with peoples accounts :(
[11:32:20] Feretorix: Greets.
[11:32:28] Feretorix: Can you link me to that information C0mrade?
[11:32:53] Feretorix: I would like to take a look at what you're trying to tell me.
[11:36:49 | Edited 11:40:48] Feretorix: After all it wouldn't make sense for me not to take care about security of my users.
[11:37:56] Feretorix: Not to mention that i've been updating this tool since patch 5.8, now is 5.13 and not a single user was banned for that time. And now the community is actually scared about their security.
[11:41:42] Feretorix: So linking me to that information would be a great deal you mentioned instead of telling me to "please research"
[19 юли 2015 г. 21:17] GoS C0mrade:
<<< No, theres more to it, please research theres even a post on d3 detailing the 5.04 update
[15:47:38] Feretorix: Hi guys, or specificly C0mrade, are you here now?
[16:53:23] Feretorix: You've been online the whole day, and still no answer? Did you quit or what happend?
This conversation is between ME and Prometheus:
Hey
[18.7.2015 г. 02:56:30] Im Prometheus: Messaged in the group
[18.7.2015 г. 17:01:45] Feretorix: How do you promote people just by promising to you to do miracles ... i don't know. Somebody just registers, makes a well-made and formed introduction in the forum and you suddenly promote him for "Core Developer" or something along the lines.
2-3 Days pass after the API gets released and we can't see a single release from him, instead only complaints. On the other hand people who ACTUALLY try to code something are there in the forums, not complaining, but instead giving actual feedback and future functions requests.
[19.7.2015 г. 03:25:02] Im Prometheus: I've known James for a few months
[19.7.2015 г. 03:25:10] Im Prometheus: Long before I joined gos
[19.7.2015 г. 03:25:21] Im Prometheus: He was going to help me with my site anf business
[19.7.2015 г. 03:25:38] Im Prometheus: I remembered what he could offer us and invited him to the job
[19.7.2015 г. 03:25:50] Im Prometheus: What's the worst that could happen?
[19.7.2015 г. 03:26:07] Im Prometheus: The choice is up to you in terms of giving him a chance
[19.7.2015 г. 03:26:27] Im Prometheus: You gave me a chance and i worked wonders ;}
[19.7.2015 г. 20:01:13] Feretorix: Thanks for the info. Faith restored.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:01:24] Feretorix: Anyway, what is the current message in the site about?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:01:30] Feretorix: "Do NOT use GOS on accounts you are willing to lose until an issue has been sorted out."
[19.7.2015 г. 20:38:30] Feretorix: I would like to get access to the new GoS twitter page.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:48:50] Im Prometheus: Can't do that
[19.7.2015 г. 20:49:06] Im Prometheus: IF I am kicked off the team, I would like all my forum changes to be removed too
[19.7.2015 г. 20:49:38] Feretorix: Why are you going to get kicked from the forum?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:50:59] Feretorix: What's the current issue?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:51:43] Im Prometheus: The issue is, you have been giving us very resitrited access to everything
[19.7.2015 г. 20:51:51] Im Prometheus: You copied from BOL
[19.7.2015 г. 20:52:14] Im Prometheus: changed very little, I understand, but from a legal point of view it's dodgy
[19.7.2015 г. 20:52:29] Feretorix: Ok i got it
[19.7.2015 г. 20:52:35] Feretorix: if i make LUA support = it's stolen from BoL
[19.7.2015 г. 20:52:42 | Edited 21:02:48] Feretorix: if i make C# support = it's stolen from L#
[19.7.2015 г. 20:52:50] Feretorix: maybe i should make Java support to be only mine
[19.7.2015 г. 20:52:56] Feretorix: what about the GoS core before the API anyway?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:53:05] Im Prometheus: I mean, I was told the source was exactly the same as bols
[19.7.2015 г. 20:53:21] Feretorix: sorry, if i make C# support it's stolen from L#
[19.7.2015 г. 20:53:37] Feretorix: you were told and you believed once again?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:53:47] Feretorix: have you even debugged for a second GoS itself?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:53:59] Feretorix: it's made in another language, pascal (Delphi 7)
[19.7.2015 г. 20:54:01] Feretorix: and not C++
[19.7.2015 г. 20:54:13] Feretorix: wait, if you think that
[19.7.2015 г. 20:54:23] Feretorix: doesn't it make sense that L# stole the sources of BoL too?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:55:01] Feretorix: Wait ... why are we even holding this conversation in the first place? Do you really think that i stole anyone's sources?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:55:10] Im Prometheus: I am unsure at the moment
[19.7.2015 г. 20:55:15] Im Prometheus: I have no proof from either side
[19.7.2015 г. 20:55:27] Im Prometheus: I deeply trust james and he agreed
[19.7.2015 г. 20:55:36] Feretorix: with a simple PEID program or a VirusTotal scan you can see that the source is made in Delphi
[19.7.2015 г. 20:55:36] Im Prometheus: I am just fully stressed out right now
[19.7.2015 г. 20:55:51] Im Prometheus: I need some time to think
[19.7.2015 г. 20:55:56] Im Prometheus: clear up all the thoughts
[19.7.2015 г. 20:56:40] Feretorix: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/a2c6bcc8d0a9cfd52f8cec4a83d6ab551d74ea8d6645f179ed73996bdbed3a33/analysis/
[19.7.2015 г. 20:56:51] Feretorix: CTRL+F and search for "Delphi"
[19.7.2015 г. 20:57:01] Feretorix: now go to BoL forums and search in what language they did code in
[19.7.2015 г. 20:57:18] Feretorix: also why James can't also tell you that GoS is made in Delphi ?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:57:49] Feretorix: You want my sources to be sure about it or what?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:57:51] Im Prometheus: I haven't seen any of the source
[19.7.2015 г. 20:58:01] Feretorix: Oh so you want the source code ...
[19.7.2015 г. 20:58:09] Im Prometheus: Just to see it
[19.7.2015 г. 20:58:18] Im Prometheus: Then I can make an informed deciision
[19.7.2015 г. 20:58:26] Feretorix: one moment
[19.7.2015 г. 20:58:32] Im Prometheus: I have always wondered why you never showed james anything or let him in
[19.7.2015 г. 20:58:39] Feretorix: i will send you two files that i will need them updated from the community, and they are in Delphi
[19.7.2015 г. 20:58:58] Feretorix: Why i won't let in James?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:59:20] Feretorix: Because he didn't show me nothing either?
[19.7.2015 г. 21:00:17] Im Prometheus: he started to
[19.7.2015 г. 21:00:58] *** ***
[19.7.2015 г. 21:01:07] Feretorix: here is the spell database in GoS
[19.7.2015 г. 21:01:26] Feretorix: a small portion of code, helping the BasicCombo tab become a reality
[19.7.2015 г. 21:03:06] Feretorix: Any words about it?
[19.7.2015 г. 21:04:32] Feretorix: I really need to make up my mind on what is going on.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:04:59] Feretorix: I will be quitting for today, the morning is wiser than the night.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:05:15] Im Prometheus: Aye
[19.7.2015 г. 21:05:16] Feretorix: I might start sharing sources with you if i get some trust in you guys
[19.7.2015 г. 21:05:25] Im Prometheus: I will need to start too
[19.7.2015 г. 21:05:33] Im Prometheus: I need trust, as I asked at the start
[19.7.2015 г. 21:05:34] Feretorix: But it sounds weird that you want all the sources at once ... doesn't it?
[19.7.2015 г. 21:06:28] Feretorix: I hope this TargetSpellDatabase.pas will settle up things a bit.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:08:17] Im Prometheus: Fere, I can't code.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:08:25] Im Prometheus: I doubt anything I see I'll understand
[19.7.2015 г. 21:09:12] Feretorix: You can see the damn language, right? :P
[19.7.2015 г. 21:09:45] Feretorix: with that "begin/end" instead of "{ and }" it screams that it's pascal and not C++
[19.7.2015 г. 21:10:52] Im Prometheus: I'm just waiting on BOL's source
[19.7.2015 г. 21:11:25] Feretorix: great, if you get your hands on BoL source, keep it for yourself
[19.7.2015 г. 21:11:34] Feretorix: or at least the language on what it's coded in
[19.7.2015 г. 21:12:09] Feretorix: Anyway, thank you for all the support so far and i hope we will keep supporting each other.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:12:18] Im Prometheus: Likewise
[19.7.2015 г. 21:12:24] Feretorix: As i said before, if the problem is money i will donate to you all the current GoS donations
[19.7.2015 г. 21:12:34] Feretorix: They are like 20~30 or something like that
[19.7.2015 г. 21:12:37] Im Prometheus: The problem is not money at all
[19.7.2015 г. 21:13:04] Feretorix: Got that, but just think of this.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:13:35] Feretorix: If i really stole the sources of BoL, shouldn't i have already released the API on the first day, without the need of ALPHA or BETA versions 2 months later?
[19.7.2015 г. 21:13:54] Im Prometheus: But not letting others in on it is a BIG put off
[19.7.2015 г. 21:13:56] Feretorix: And think of all that preconfigured stuff with unique CS:GO style menu in the first place.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:14:14] Feretorix: Okay, i will be quitting Skype now. Really need a rest.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:14:26] Im Prometheus: me too, take care
[19.7.2015 г. 21:14:35] Feretorix: While i am offline, please tell me what sources you need and why (what are you going to improve in Delphi language you don't know)
[19.7.2015 г. 21:14:47] Feretorix: That's all.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:14:52] Feretorix: See you later mate, and take care.
[19.7.2015 г. 21:15:04] Im Prometheus: You too bud
[11:35:30] Feretorix: Hello, C0mrade seems to be online but doesn't answer back, do you might know where he actually is?
[11:36:42] Im Prometheus: Hey there
[11:36:48] Im Prometheus: I'm still in bed
[11:37:00] Feretorix: oh wow, sorry then :P
[11:37:09] Im Prometheus: Hehe, not sure where he is
And some random conversation i've been added in yesterday:
[19.7.2015 г. 20:02:50] Im Prometheus: Recalling explain everything to feretorix whilst I'm gone
[19.7.2015 г. 20:03:09] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: Fere
[19.7.2015 г. 20:03:18] Im Prometheus: I'll be back in 30 mins
[19.7.2015 г. 20:03:23] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: you are a stupid motherfuckn leecher. You have Big big Problems and much trouble.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:03:30] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: GoS will be gone in these weeks.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:03:54] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: Copying Source and API with Copyright is the dumbest thing you ever done.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:04:17] Im Prometheus: keep it professional.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:04:48] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: The Admin of BoL is already going to Police.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:05:04] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: We will leave your Project and continue the one of C0mrade.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:07:39] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: ok you copied all the source and the api, and we dont like such guys thats ourso the reason why you dont give core access
[19.7.2015 г. 20:08:48] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: rly? no answer i think that already say all
[19.7.2015 г. 20:41:43] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: ???
[19.7.2015 г. 20:43:07] Feretorix: What's all that drama?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:43:21] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: read here.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:43:26] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: You copied.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:43:44] Feretorix: Great, i copied and pasted and it worked.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:43:53] Feretorix: Now you go copy and paste and make BoL 3 if you want
[19.7.2015 г. 20:43:58] Feretorix: Good luck
[19.7.2015 г. 20:44:00] *** Feretorix has left ***
and last conversation i had with the guy added in the last chat
[19.7.2015 г. 20:17:50] *** Feretorix has shared contact details with †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†. ***
[19.7.2015 г. 20:21:13] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: Answer in our Conversation.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:21:15] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: Leecher
[19.7.2015 г. 20:41:40] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: ???
[19.7.2015 г. 20:44:28] Feretorix: Good luck making your own BoL 3 if you think it's easy to copy and paste.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:45:14] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: shit kid.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:45:21] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: Husky is already at the Police
[19.7.2015 г. 20:46:07] Feretorix: Anyone is free to code anything anywhere on the inthernet on their favourite languages.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:46:25] Feretorix: That's why there are different car brands with 4 wheels and 1 steering
[19.7.2015 г. 20:46:31] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: you just copied changed 1 % and leeced it haha xD
[19.7.2015 г. 20:46:44] Feretorix: That's why there are different yogurt brands, etc
[19.7.2015 г. 20:47:00] Feretorix: Waste of time to keep this conversation.
[19.7.2015 г. 20:47:15] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: XD
[19.7.2015 г. 20:47:25] †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†: so you think changing 1 percent makes it your own?
[19.7.2015 г. 20:47:30] Feretorix: First get rid of L$, with 2 million downloads, then get rid of GoS with 30K downloads
[19.7.2015 г. 20:47:43] Feretorix: L$ is your problem, not me
[19.7.2015 г. 20:47:47] Feretorix: bye and take care
[19.7.2015 г. 20:47:54] *** Feretorix blocked †.RecaLLing-'s Arma 2 Spawnservice!†***